Bravo Chairman Frances Berwick Breaks Down Why RHOSLC Is Outshining The Other Franchises

Frances Berwick is one of the most influential decision makers in reality TV. As the chairman of Bravo and Peacock Unscripted, she oversees every unscripted hit the network produces, from Vanderpump Rules to Top Chef to every city in the Real Housewives universe.

Jennifer Geiser, evp of communications & talent relations unscripted, NBCUniversal; Karen Kovacs, president of client partnerships for advertising and partnerships division; Frances Berwick, chairman of Bravo & Peacock unscripted; and Alison Levin, president of advertising and partnerships for NBCUniversal at BravoCon 2025 on Friday. RICH POLK/BRAVO

When she speaks about what’s working and why, she’s speaking from inside the control room — the place where strategy, casting, story decisions, and franchise direction all come together.

So when she opened up in a recent Variety interview about why The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is outpacing the other franchises in fan reaction and momentum, it felt like a rare moment of clarity from the top.

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The interviewer asked what makes RHOSLC ride so high, noting that the women received some of the loudest applause of BravoCon weekend. Berwick pointed straight to the cast’s substance.

“They have really interesting stories to tell. They all have incredibly different types of backgrounds, and different types of experience. You think about Bronwyn’s life story compared to Heather’s backstory — completely different, although both were Mormons, and both have experienced different elements of that. You think about Lisa’s background, building her businesses, and the success of doing that, and living a different type of lifestyle.

They are all prepared to be vulnerable, and to show their lives. And they all have great senses of humor as well.”

But she didn’t stop at storytelling. For her, the real secret to the franchise’s success is how the Salt Lake women handle conflict. Plenty of Housewives know how to fight. Not all of them know how to move past it.

“I do think that’s a key ingredient. The thing that we say to all our talent when they first start is, ‘You’re gonna have to be really thick-skinned: Don’t go down the internet rabbit hole.’”

Then she explained what makes this cast different.

“I’m not saying that these women don’t, but I do think that they’re self-possessed enough, and they have enough of their own identity, that they are able to be very forceful in the way they express their opinions, and they feel strongly.”

That mix — honesty, humor, strong identities, and the ability to recover after a blowup — is what Berwick believes gives RHOSLC its edge. It’s not chaos for chaos’ sake. It’s women who are willing to show every side of their lives, then keep going.

And right now, that’s landing with Bravo fans louder than anything else in the franchise.


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16 comments

AnEnigmaWrappedInSnark November 20, 2025 - 4:02 pm
I wouldn't argue that SLC is currently the darling of HW series, but I'm not particularly digging this season. Now in season 6, the stale formula and predictability is plaguing SLC just like all the others. I can always tell when I'm not into a show when I'm suddenly lagging behind several episodes (and it's doubtful that I'll ever catch up).
michers November 20, 2025 - 6:18 pm
I wouldn’t say interesting stories . There is chaos just about in every direction . The one thing I can’t stand that others may applaud , is a pile on and gang up . Brittani may be lacking with her daughters however , they weren’t part of the show from her start here . The very childlike playground mean girl treatments she gets is unwarranted . She’s done nothing as severe as some others . The fact that other grown women who are mothers allow this almost constant attack speaks of volumes and I do not think that puts them on top but it’s Bravo so of course they love it if some of us hate it lol
BC November 20, 2025 - 8:59 pm
I definitely agree about the pile ons and about Brittani. The redeeming feature for me though is the chaos. You're right, it's chaos in every direction! But that seems to suck me in as I never know what's happening or about to happen LOL. I think the chaos and craziness of Meredith and Lisa Barlow, and Whitney's eye rolls just keep me coming back for more :)
michers November 21, 2025 - 4:32 pm
I have been getting tight chested watching this and the OC reunion lol … Tamra has given me viewer anxiety !
michers November 21, 2025 - 4:32 pm
I have been getting tight chested watching this and the OC reunion lol … Tamra has given me viewer anxiety !
BC November 21, 2025 - 8:21 pm
Me too!! Just watched #3. Do you think Tamra actually did leak the storylines? She has done a LOT of stuff but I somehow believe her on this one. I just can't see her risking her job after 15 years by going that far. Something is up. I don't think Andy believes she did it either.
michers November 21, 2025 - 9:50 pm
I’m not sure due to the fact that it was all info no one could’ve known but her !!! She was involved in every part of those scenes that not really anyone else knew ! If she didn’t directly leak I think she ran her mouth per usual to someone who obviously did ! She had to be involved in some capacity . The way she kept blaming slade and even Andy defended the point that no way it could’ve been was also very damning for her
michers November 21, 2025 - 9:50 pm
I’m not sure due to the fact that it was all info no one could’ve known but her !!! She was involved in every part of those scenes that not really anyone else knew ! If she didn’t directly leak I think she ran her mouth per usual to someone who obviously did ! She had to be involved in some capacity . The way she kept blaming slade and even Andy defended the point that no way it could’ve been was also very damning for her
BC November 21, 2025 - 8:21 pm
Me too!! Just watched #3. Do you think Tamra actually did leak the storylines? She has done a LOT of stuff but I somehow believe her on this one. I just can't see her risking her job after 15 years by going that far. Something is up. I don't think Andy believes she did it either.
BC November 20, 2025 - 8:59 pm
I definitely agree about the pile ons and about Brittani. The redeeming feature for me though is the chaos. You're right, it's chaos in every direction! But that seems to suck me in as I never know what's happening or about to happen LOL. I think the chaos and craziness of Meredith and Lisa Barlow, and Whitney's eye rolls just keep me coming back for more :)
michers November 20, 2025 - 6:18 pm
I wouldn’t say interesting stories . There is chaos just about in every direction . The one thing I can’t stand that others may applaud , is a pile on and gang up . Brittani may be lacking with her daughters however , they weren’t part of the show from her start here . The very childlike playground mean girl treatments she gets is unwarranted . She’s done nothing as severe as some others . The fact that other grown women who are mothers allow this almost constant attack speaks of volumes and I do not think that puts them on top but it’s Bravo so of course they love it if some of us hate it lol
AnEnigmaWrappedInSnark November 20, 2025 - 4:02 pm
I wouldn't argue that SLC is currently the darling of HW series, but I'm not particularly digging this season. Now in season 6, the stale formula and predictability is plaguing SLC just like all the others. I can always tell when I'm not into a show when I'm suddenly lagging behind several episodes (and it's doubtful that I'll ever catch up).
Steve November 20, 2025 - 3:08 pm
"That mix — honesty, humor, strong identities, and the ability to recover after a blowup — is what Berwick believes gives RHOSLC its edge. It’s not chaos for chaos’ sake. It’s women who are willing to show every side of their lives, then keep going". If this is the ticket to success, then firing the entire cast of BH and OC and starting over is in order. Bringing back has-beens like Vicki on OC will not create this dynamic.
Steve November 20, 2025 - 3:08 pm
"That mix — honesty, humor, strong identities, and the ability to recover after a blowup — is what Berwick believes gives RHOSLC its edge. It’s not chaos for chaos’ sake. It’s women who are willing to show every side of their lives, then keep going". If this is the ticket to success, then firing the entire cast of BH and OC and starting over is in order. Bringing back has-beens like Vicki on OC will not create this dynamic.
RyNy83 November 20, 2025 - 8:34 am
I will agree SLC is on another level compared to the rest. I know people complained, while OC was a dark season I think it was a poor decision to bench Katie, I still felt it was a riveting season thanks to Tamra & Katie, Gretchen & Emily and that final scene kind of ruined the season.
RyNy83 November 20, 2025 - 8:34 am
I will agree SLC is on another level compared to the rest. I know people complained, while OC was a dark season I think it was a poor decision to bench Katie, I still felt it was a riveting season thanks to Tamra & Katie, Gretchen & Emily and that final scene kind of ruined the season.
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